I'm sure this has already been talked about...

[FreakCentral]

Hey Freakers! I'm sure this has already been discussed, and Shadow, Monkey, or Mondo might point me into the right direction... but I know where the site's story was heading. Nexus was a super computer. But where was the show heading? I mean Adam kept appearing in Derek's life, Vince seemed to pop up EVERYWHERE, the symbols and the ring... Lan and Derek, Derek and Chloe... these thoughts constantly race through my head while I watch reruns... where would they have gone in season 2? How was FreakyLinks the show supposed to end?

[SpaceMonkey]

I think there were general story arcs-- i.e. the writers probably had some idea as to how & why Adam was showing up from beyond the grave,  and how Vince was related to the Barnes brothers....

 ...but how the various pieces were supposed to fit together in the end....I'd guess that was probably not yet written.

But what drives ME nuts is something only tangentially related to all that.

David Goyer helped create the show-- in the earlier version 'Lan Williams' was known as 'Lan Nguyen' a Korean hacker who just showed up one day on Derek's doorstep, offering to help him with his work, in exchange for his help with a mystery that she herself was chasing after.

What the heck was THAT about? It drives me nuts because Goyer went on to do Blade: the Series.. and in that show Blade was being helped along by a new sidekick, a guy named Shen who was a Korean hacker who just showed up one day on Blade's doorstep, offering to help him with his work, in exchange for his help with a mystery that Shen himself was chasing after.

And it also drives me nuts, that David Simkins, one of the many head-writers of freakylinks,    went on to produce The Dresden Files and had Dresden driving around in 'the Freakmobile' -- drives me nuts how 'Artie' on Warehouse 13-- Simkins' newest show--  is so reminiscent of Gunther Mahlberg with his mad desire to collect & store ancient paranormal artifacts. 

Just seeing these other ideas pop up, makes me wonder what Freakylinks would have looked like heavy into season 2, 3 or even 4...

[Shadow]

It's really hard to say where the series' underlying mythology was actually headed. There was a lot of website stuff that tied in with the pilot but thereafter everything was up for grabs. The people to ask are David Simkins and Juan Carlos Coto. Being script editor and having written the only other show mythology episode, The Harbingers, I'm pretty sure that Juan Carlos Coto had a notion of where he wanted to take this and at some point it would have to dovetail once again with the sentient computers, Mahlburg, and the website story.

Episode-wise, we were right at the point we would have been due yet another mythology teaser if the show had run a full 22 episode season.

As for Vince, I think this story related by David Simkins displays the disarray the main story was in just before the launch of the pilot.   

Most awkward moment: At the Television Critics Association gathering in Pasadena, CA, exec. producer Tommy Thompson was on stage with the actors, including Dennis Christopher, extolling the virtues of the yet-to-be-aired series to hundreds of reporters from around the country. Asked by a reporter how he saw the characters carrying the show, Tommy replied with (and I'm paraphrasing), "I have no idea what we're going to do with Dennis Christopher's character"; He was completely serious. You could see Dennis' stunned reaction on stage. The other actors resembled headlighted deer. Afterward, Dennis, in total actor meltdown, practically tackled me demanding to know, "What the hell did that mean?"; I was left to smooth some very ruffled feathers. Tommy left the show shortly thereafter. So did Dennis' character.

There's a lot of 'net rumor out there that claims that Vince experimented on himself while with DeSanto but I have never seem or read any official show documentation to back up this claim.

I think there were general story arcs-- i.e. the writers probably had some idea as to how & why Adam was showing up from beyond the grave,  and how Vince was related to the Barnes brothers....

 ...but how the various pieces were supposed to fit together in the end....I'd guess that was probably not yet written.

I've got to agree with you there, Space. I think there were a lot of playing pieces on the board and their relationships to one another were still in flux.

But what drives ME nuts is something only tangentially related to all that.

David Goyer helped create the show-- in the earlier version 'Lan Williams' was known as 'Lan Nguyen' a Korean hacker who just showed up one day on Derek's doorstep, offering to help him with his work, in exchange for his help with a mystery that she herself was chasing after.

Now I knew about the Vietnamese version of Lan Nguyen, but this showing up on his doorstep in exchange for help is new to me. This storyline must have been dropped pretty early on to establish her as the bartender Derek meets according to those very early website entries.   

And it also drives me nuts, that David Simkins, one of the many head-writers of freakylinks,  went on to produce The Dresden Files and had Dresden driving around in 'the Freakmobile' --

To be fair, Dresden was driving a completely different make of vehicle than featured on FreakyLinks, an old Willys Jeep to be exact. Dresden of the books drives a blue VW bug but this was changed in the series because Paul Blackthorn at 6'5"-ish couldn't comfortably fit in the VW. Shows that the author, Jim Butcher, didn't take leg room for tall men into account when writing his books.   

drives me nuts how 'Artie' on Warehouse 13-- Simkins' newest show--  is so reminiscent of Gunther Mahlberg with his mad desire to collect & store ancient paranormal artifacts.

I really, really wanted to like the Warehouse 13 series. I don't, so I think it's best if I say no more on the subject.

As with any good writer like Simkins and Goyer, they'll take these little unused ideas and squirrel them away to be used later.  

Just seeing these other ideas pop up, makes me wonder what Freakylinks would have looked like heavy into season 2, 3 or even 4...

At this point I'd honestly settle for one full season. I truly don't know how FreakyLinks would look so many seasons on. Take Supernatural, (oh please take it!) it's so far away from the greatness that was it's first season as to be almost something else entirely. Something unwatchable. I'm glad FreakyLinks didn't suffer that fate.

~Shadow

[FreakCentral]

Just seeing these other ideas pop up, makes me wonder what Freakylinks would have looked like heavy into season 2, 3 or even 4...

At this point I'd honestly settle for one full season. I truly don't know how FreakyLinks would look so many seasons on. Take Supernatural, (oh please take it!) it's so far away from the greatness that was it's first season as to be almost something else entirely. Something unwatchable. I'm glad FreakyLinks didn't suffer that fate.

~Shadow

Ha ha, Kripke and McG are thinking about finishing the show off here and now. This upcoming season is rumored to be in the glory of the first season. Instead of the Brothers being the HUGE highlight of the show it'll be more about the Apocalyptic battle between the Angels and Lucifer (as well as the rest of the demon race). The brothers will just be caught in the cross hairs (<--IDK how to spell that one). This season should be good as none of the actors know if they'll be back for a season six, nor do any of the writers or directors. They believe this year may be the last. Because I mean, come on. How can you go back to the mundane monster mash when you just defeated the greatest evil known on any plane of existence?

[Shadow]

They believe this year may be the last. Because I mean, come on. How can you go back to the mundane monster mash when you just defeated the greatest evil known on any plane of existence?

I'm going to really restrain myself from going off on a rant about Supernatural, but yeah, you'd think that they've built themselves up to a big finale----- well sort of. Jared and Jensen are under contract for a sixth season if the CW wants one (and they do). The only person who isn't under contract for season 6 is Kripke himself and even he is talking like if the price is right, he'll stay on. So unless the ratings are just terrible this season you can count on the 6th with or without Kripke.

His claims at 2009 Comic Con are that they'll wrap up the Lucifer story (How and why did the show get here again?) and season 6 will start a whole new epic chapter.

They'll flog this dead horse right into the ground, perverting the first season all the way. Mark my words.

~Shadow

[Dib]

I just sort of assumed that since Vince was covered in the symbols that were thought to keep away evil entities that he may have, at some point, been possessed, or at least wore those markings as a way to keep himself safe (sorta like the tattoos the brother's wear in Supernatural, since we're talking about that too).

As far as further seasons go, I actually thing they'd have to go the route of Supernatural eventually.  Doing "monster of the week" stuff, while entertaining, gets very stale very quickly to those that aren't dedicated fans, and that's when the ratings start to drop.  You have to create some sort of ongoing story in order to force the viewer to "tune in next time" to find out what happens.  As with shows like Buffy or The X-Files, fans consider the "monster of the week" seasons to be their glory days, and Supernatural seems to be the same, but they figured they found a working model with the demon stuff and since they wanted to build to something big, they went with Hell rather than Bigfoot and the Skunk Ape forming a Yeti alliance and attacking the U.S.

So where would Freakylinks have gone?  More than likely, we'd end up being introduced to a central villain (Nexus?) who would drag Derek and Co. along on some freaky road-trip around the U.S. looking for answers.  I could see the Freak-Cave being burned to the ground and the crew living out of the truck while they search for answers, forcing them to work off of a laptop on the road.  I know that's sorta Supernatural-y, but with today's technology and wireless internet everywhere, it makes for a better low-income web journalist story if he's not holed up somewhere.

Or not.  Whatever.

[Shadow]

I just sort of assumed that since Vince was covered in the symbols that were thought to keep away evil entities that he may have, at some point, been possessed, or at least wore those markings as a way to keep himself safe

And I'm sure that Gregg and David Goyer had a specific purpose in mind for Vince, I just find it interesting how that sort of got lost from producer to producer.

So where would Freakylinks have gone?  More than likely, we'd end up being introduced to a central villain (Nexus?)

Nexus was supposed to be an uneasy ally. No, my guess would be the consortium of collectors that Mahlburg was involved with. Myskatonic, wasn't it? (Which is of course is an H. P. Lovecraft reference.)

~Shadow